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ROLLUP: Saylor Getting Sued | Avalanche Playing Dirty?! | MERGETEMBER | Maker Drama

1st Week of Mergetember

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TIMESTAMPS & RESOURCES

0:00 Intro

4:33 MARKETS

4:36 BTC Price

4:56 ETH Price

5:23 ETH/BTC

5:52 Total Crypto Market Cap

6:32 Merge Estimator

10:15 Fed Watch

https://www.cnbc.com/2022/08/26/powell-warns-of-some-pain-ahead-as-fed-fights-to-lower-inflation.html

12:10 ETH Dives %10 After Powell Rate Hike Signal

https://www.thedefiant.io/markets-dive-powell-speech

15:33 Avalanche Playing Dirty?

https://cryptoleaks.info/case-no-3

https://medium.com/@kyleroche/my-response-b691563c255b

24:00 Tweet from Emin

https://twitter.com/el33th4xor/status/1564006450531377156

25:00 Maybe Not True?

https://twitter.com/AriDavidPaul/status/1564253955785461767

26:44 David Take

https://twitter.com/TrustlessState/status/1565340995062882311

30:35 Saylor Getting Sued

31:40 Saylor Tax Fraud

https://blockworks.co/michael-saylor-and-microstrategy-sued/

https://twitter.com/AGKarlRacine/status/1565031380471382019

https://twitter.com/tier10k/status/1565040637044465666

34:37 Maker

34:40 Drama Summary

https://threadreaderapp.com/thread/1564716178819653632.html

43:05 NEWS

43:09 ETH

43:13 Coinbase Announces cbETH

https://decrypt.co/108180/coinbase-announces-cbeth-wrapped-ethereum-staking-token  

https://twitter.com/CoinbaseAssets/status/1562476695357358080

https://dune.com/Marcov/coinbase-wrapped-staked-eth

47:43 Abritrum One Upgraded to Nitro Stack

https://twitter.com/arbitrum/status/1565041950142730245

48:48 Yesterday’s State of the Nation

https://youtu.be/yYzQPRRAs6M

48:55 Optimism Gas ATH

https://twitter.com/MSilb7/status/1565131857464901633

49:55 Data Giant Shocks Ethereum with Ban on Mining

https://www.thedefiant.io/data-giant-shocks-ethereum-with-ban-on-mining

54:04 Vitalik Book

https://twitter.com/VitalikButerin/status/1564804705997361153

55:10 NFTs

55:15 Facebook & Instagram Allow Posting NFTs

https://twitter.com/Meta/status/1564282540831248387

56:00 Reddit Subtly Launches NFTs

https://twitter.com/itstimconnors/status/1562839909261447168

59:09 Ticketmaster Integrates with DapperLabs’ Flow Blockchain

https://techcrunch.com/2022/08/31/ticketmaster-taps-the-flow-blockchain-to-let-event-organizers-issue-nfts-tied-to-tickets/amp/

59:55 Goose NFT to Bankruptcy Liquidation

https://twitter.com/dmitricherniak/status/1563587242777448448

1:01:06 Regulation

FBI Issues Warning to Vulnerable DeFi Platforms

https://decrypt.co/108542/fbi-issues-warning-over-vulnerable-defi-platforms

1:03:47 Crypto.com $10.5M Accident

https://fortune.com/2022/08/31/crypto-com-accidentally-transferred-10-million-to-thevamanogari-manivel/

1:05:40 Releases

1:05:42 Orca Protocol Rebrand to Metropolis

https://metropolis.mirror.xyz/ozkx0ZMwIzyahRJiQKpNv_8r7vAhOo-8tucjONhXJHI

1:06:20 Raises

1:06:24 PROOF $50M from a16z & More

https://a16zcrypto.com/investing-in-proof/

https://twitter.com/proof_xyz/status/1564689271755137024

1:07:28 Reddit’s Ohanian’s $177M Crypto Fund

https://decrypt.co/108560/reddit-co-founder-eyes-177m-crypto-fund-invest-strong-founders-discount-report

1:08:16 Genesis Raise $500M

https://cointelegraph.com/news/everything-s-on-sale-reddit-founder-galaxy-and-genesis-execs-raise-big-money

1:08:50 Jobs

https://pallet.xyz/list/bankless/jobs

1:12:07 Questions from the Nation

https://twitter.com/avi_g_/status/1565192839021363200

https://twitter.com/nextalphaa/status/1565011491304230912

https://twitter.com/HappyjoeNFT/status/1565031005475418114

https://twitter.com/teemu_lens/status/1565008572248899584

1:21:55 TAKES

1:22:00 New take on the cycle

https://twitter.com/gasull/status/1564888312157876229

1:23:33 99% of Crypto is a Joke

https://twitter.com/RyanSAdams/status/1564257934011379713

1:25:12 Gravity Turns Off

https://twitter.com/TrustlessState/status/1564637280379502593

1:27:17 Worlds Greatest Bitcoiner

https://twitter.com/cobie/status/1565264636445745153

1:30:14 What David’s Bullish On

1:31:23 What Ryan’s Bullish On

1:34:55 MEME of the Week

https://twitter.com/hegemony_inc/status/1564357396784263170

Transcript
00:00
Ryan Sean Adams

And uh David, before we get in, because it is merged tober.

00:04
David

Merg Tober. No, merge merge Tember.

00:06
Ryan Sean Adams

Excuse me, merged temper. Oh, did I just curse this?

00:09
David

Yeah, you just

00:12
Ryan Sean Adams

Hey Bankless Nation. It is the first Friday of September. Or David, should I say merge tember? Because that's what month it is. It is the merge month. And that means that all of the bankless episodes in September are called merge casts, not podcasts. How'd you like that?

00:27
David

I did not know this. I did not know this about our

00:29
Ryan Sean Adams

Are you ready for that? Anyway, guys, this is the the weekly roll up. I said it this time, not David. What should people do when listening to the weekly roll up, David? What beverage should they be drinking?

00:39
David

Oh, of course

00:40
David

you know, I'm not saying that everyone has to be drinking coffee, but you know, it's the coffee that I drink when I listen to the weekly roll up every Friday morning because sometimes I do actually listen to it. You know, to catch up in the week in crypto.

00:52
Ryan Sean Adams

That's the coffee that you drink.

00:53
David

Yeah.

00:54
Ryan Sean Adams

I think you meant to say it's the beverage that you drink is coffee, but you said it's the coffee that you drink is a beverage.

00:58
David

Excuse me. Yes, that's what I meant. That's what I meant. Yeah.

01:00
Ryan Sean Adams

Same thing.

01:01
David

Sometimes I mix up trillions and billions, sometimes I mix up beverage and coffee. You know how it goes.

01:06
David

Friday

01:07
Ryan Sean Adams

Well uh of course, if you are a weekly roll-up fan, you will know that if you add anything to your coffee, David considers that a beverage, no longer a coffee. The only real coffee is black coffee. That's what I learned from David.

01:19
David

Coffee, espresso, water and coffee, that's how it works.

01:23
Ryan Sean Adams

That's that's

01:23
David

I don't write the rules.

01:25
Ryan Sean Adams

No milk. All right guys, we got some interesting topics this week. David, do you want to tease some of them up?

01:30
David

Yeah, we got some shenanigans going on this week. Uh first off, Avalanche playing dirty, question mark, using uh nation state legal systems to sue other alt layer ones in order to get ahead, kind of just like taking a hack at your opponent's legs as you try and run a foot race. Uh, you know, you know, not totally completely proven. Uh, so we'll go back on the details on that. Um, but also, uh, Michael Saylor getting sued in the District of Columbia for not paying taxes, perhaps creating a forced Bitcoin seller. We're gonna cover that, that drama. Uh, and then also, Maker Dow wants to depeg die. Uh, no longer one dollar equals one die, perhaps. Uh, at least these are the conversations going on in the MakerDAO discourse. We're going to summarize all this and more, but also a bunch uh rather than all the like the negative stuff, there's also some positive stuff, of course, also happened this week. Ryan, what what were some of the good things that happened?

02:23
Ryan Sean Adams

Alright, you got the bad things. A few of the good things, some highlights are a new liquid staking token, ETH staking token, just launched on the scene, and it's from one of the largest exchanges. I don't know if you guys can guess which one, but we will tell you in the roll-up as it progresses. Also, a roll-up itself just upgraded and made Ethereum seven times bigger. That was the news this week. Uh starts with an A. Won't tell you which one until we get into the episode. And then Facebook and Instagram just expanded their NFT offering. So there's definitely a lot to talk about on the good side. And of course, if you like these roll ups, you're listening on your podcast player. Make sure you like it. Make sure you write us a review. Uh, give us five stars if you think we are worthy of five stars. And then also, if you're listening to this on YouTube watching it, I should say make sure you hit that subscribe button. And uh, David, before we get in, because it is merged Tober.

03:19
David

Merg Tober. No, merged merged timber.

03:21
Ryan Sean Adams

Excuse me, merge timber. Oh, did I just curse this?

03:24
David

Yeah, you just remember.

03:26
David

September day one of September, and we're already off to a bad start.

03:29
Ryan Sean Adams

This might redeem me with listeners, is did you know? Alright, David, let's get to the markets, man. What is Bitcoin doing this week?

03:35
David

Uh going down. It's going down, Ryan. Uh Bitcoin started the week at $21,700. It went down at 9.5% to where it is now at $19,600. We are below $20,000. Oof.

03:48
Ryan Sean Adams

That's just about double digits, man. That's a pretty steep drop.

03:52
David

We're below 2017 all time highs.

03:54
Ryan Sean Adams

Okay, and Eth, is that showing us anything better? Because the merge is coming, David.

03:58
David

Yeah. Yeah. The the mer the Ether also down. Also down. Down 10%. Down start of the week at $17,010, currently at $15,030, down a little bit more than Bitcoin. Yeah.

04:11
Ryan Sean Adams

We're gonna talk about this in a minute, but this feels awfully correlated to the NASDAQ in the stock market coming on the back of some of Powell's recent comments in Jackson Hole as he gave them. We'll get to that in a minute. But uh how about the ratio? Is that giving us any signal?

04:25
David

Uh yeah, it did the same thing it did last week where it plummeted down to like 0.073, 0.072, uh, but it then recovered back to 0.0783. So it's overall down 1.3% on the week. It started the week at 0.079, currently down to 0.078, but it hit 0.073 intro week and and bounced back up. So still life in the mer in the uh in the ratio.

04:49
Ryan Sean Adams

Still life in the ratio. How about uh global cryptocurrency market cap? Are we above a trillion still?

04:55
David

Uh barely. We are barely above a trillion. We started the week at one point zero eight five trillion and we are at one point zero zero two trillion. So twenty billion dollars away from one trillion dollars. No wait, two billion two two billion dollars. Two billion dollars.

05:09
Ryan Sean Adams

Alright, so what is ETH right now? So it is 14 or 1500 something?

05:14
Ryan Sean Adams

1530. Okay, so it's still floating above the uh 2017 all time high, I guess, or 2018 all time high. I don't even know if people care about that number anymore. Do you think that's like old news?

05:26
David

Yeah, I'm not sure. I'm not sure.

05:28
Ryan Sean Adams

Yeah, it feels kind of old news.

05:30
Ryan Sean Adams

Alright, um this is a prediction for the merge date, which of course we've explained is is somewhat uh changing, ever changing. What is this showing us?

05:39
David

Yeah, so this is Bordel.wtf, and there was another merge predictor website that we showed last week that predicted the merge had like moved up to like early morning September and it even flashed into late uh Tuesday. Um but that was one calculation, and here's Bordel.wtf, which is a more conservative calculation. So this one moves a little bit slower. As hash rate comes and goes, the merge date changes. Uh and so like people don't really know. Uh and so the other the calculation that we showed last week was pretty like aggressive in how much it updates based uh based off of recent uh hash power. Uh the bordel.wtf site changes a little bit slower. Uh and this one is still showing that we are going to likely merge around Thursday noon UTC time, which is about 8 a.m. Eastern time. Um, we will see.

06:26
Ryan Sean Adams

Alright, so um what happens with the hash rate? How is that related to the merge date, whether it's like sooner or later?

06:33
David

Yeah, so total terminal difficulty. This is that TTD number. It's the replacement for block height. So rather than this is why the date hops around every now and then. We didn't choose a block, we choose chose a TTD, a total terminal difficulty. What the hell is TDD? Uh you don't really need to know this. Don't like carve out space in your brain. This is really like the one time thing that's gonna be relevant. But it's basically the raw number of hashes. So total number of hashes that goes into proof of work. Once the total number of hashes hits that TTD number of 5, 8, 7, 5, and then what looks like 20 zeros after that. I'm not don't even know what number that is, uh a significantly large number, uh, then we merge. Uh and so the faster, the more hash power there is, the more that miners come online and do proof of work mining, the faster we grow the hashes, the faster we approach that TTD number. If miners drop off the network, then we approach that number slower. Uh and so it's a function of like how many miners are mining on Ethereum. And as that goes up, merge comes sooner. As it goes down, merge goes further away.

07:31
Ryan Sean Adams

I wonder if we'll see any drop because if we see some drop like hashrate go down as as the Thursday of September 15th, excuse me, Merch Tember 15th approaches, then um like that could extend it into like Friday. I personally I'm I'm hopeful it it um hash hash rate uh goes down a little bit so that we get like you know like two three p.m. or so in the afternoon. It's just nice and casual, right? We could just kick back and relax and this doesn't go super early into the like wee hours of the city. I would like to have a margarita

08:03
David

While the merge happens, yes.

08:04
Ryan Sean Adams

same.

08:05
David

Yeah.

08:05
Ryan Sean Adams

Just like afternoon, early evening, that would be so relaxing.

08:09
David

Mm-hmm.

08:09
Ryan Sean Adams

Uh but yeah, there's nothing we could do. I guess we don't really know what the hash rate is going to do. Is there any reason to believe that miners might drop off as as the merch gets closer?

08:19
David

It makes sense for miners to not come online as we get closer to the merge. So that that makes sense to me. Uh like if you have late no one's investing in in Ethereum proof of work now. That's too late. And so it only makes sense for it to stay the same or drop off. Um it's one of those things that there's a little bit of game theory behind this, right? So if like 50% of miners the day before the merge just like, all right, let's like pack up shop, uh, well, then you're actually making it twice as profitable for the 50% of miners that stick around for that last remaining day.

08:47
Ryan Sean Adams

Right.

08:48
David

Uh and so like I don't know. I kinda think mm the if you will have a miner miner the only reason why you would want to shut down your mining rigs is to sell your GPUs before the rest of miners sell their GPUs. But I don't really know how liquid the GPU market is or how relevant that is. I don't know. I don't know.

09:04
Ryan Sean Adams

So it's probably likely they'll they'll just stay and and continue to squeeze the the remaining proof of work juice out of this uh extremely

09:11
David

Profitable it would be a miner, so.

09:13
Ryan Sean Adams

Yeah. Uh all right, David. Let's get to our Fed watch. That was our merge watch. Uh coming soon, man. Just next couple of weeks, of course, the merge. But the Fed watch. So as I said earlier, Jerome Powell was out in Jackson Hole, Wyoming. He gave a policy speech. And this sent markets tobbling. Here is a CNBC article. Powell warns of some pain, in quotes, ahead as the Fed fights to bring down inflation. The Fed chairman, Jerome Powell, on Friday, pledged, that's last Friday, that the central bank will use our tools forcefully to attack inflation. It's still running and it's running near its highest level in more than 40 years. So he he gave a speech. He said it would take some time. I think the TLDR of this is Powell is saying the Fed Reserve, uh the Federal Reserve has to continue raising rates and even hold them at the higher level that's coming soon until at least inflation is under control. And that's at the cost of jobs.

10:12
Ryan Sean Adams

Uh possibly. So unemployment could continue to rise. And Powell is saying he'll continue to be to be hawkish. So even though he's saying that though, David, what's interesting is the market is still predicting that rate cuts will start around summer of next year, June of like 2023. If you kind of look at the like what the market is pricing in. So today the Fed rate, uh, the target rate um is between you know two and a half uh two and a quarter to two point five percent. And the market is pricing it a 70% chance that we increase by another 75 basis points September 21st. Right. So that would be the next time the Fed might increase rates. So Powell continuing to be hawkish. Of course, this sent markets for a tumble, the NASDAQ, the SP, and people are blaming this on the crypto dive as well. This is why ETH is down 10% on the week.

11:13
David

I think uh the other take I heard was that we had one month of uh uh inflation that didn't get higher. And then everyone was like, it's reversing. It's over. It's over. And then people are like, wait, no, that was just like one month worth of data. Like we're still in

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