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ROLLUP: ETH Beats SEC! | Trump Coin? | LayerZero Token | ETH ETF Trading Soon

Bankless Friday Weekly Rollup 3rd Week of June 2024

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TIMESTAMPS & RESOURCES:

0:00 Intro

1:57 MARKET

https://x.com/WhalePanda/status/1802958996392870368

https://www.theblock.co/data/crypto-markets/bitcoin-etf/spot-bitcoin-etf-flows

https://x.com/CryptoDonAlt/status/1802743515941609572

https://www.tradingview.com/chart/?symbol=AMEX%3ASPY

https://x.com/saylor/status/1803763490928119950

8:37 ETH Price & ETH ETF Going Live

https://x.com/EricBalchunas/status/1801725292404261308

12:05 Total Crypto Market Cap

12:48 L2Beat

https://dune.com/hildobby/blobs

https://dune.com/sealaunch/dex-metrics-on-base?Select+Date+Granularity_ed0f38=week&Select+Timeframe_ed47bb=365

https://imgur.com/YuXZfAv

https://x.com/WazzCrypto/status/1803858912166449480

https://twitter.com/wbnns/status/1803217959479025857

17:42 Combo ETH + BTC ETF

https://x.com/NateGeraci/status/1803080047303036971

https://x.com/Matt_Hougan/status/1803767324605886515

https://x.com/matthew_sigel/status/1801342560977190937

https://youtu.be/T2Ur8Dhc3uQ?si=Obqn5eY89sEUEdwi

https://youtu.be/KUMGYEKIiGw?si=fS4pae1N_rr1f0C0

20:36 AIRDROP Season in full swing

Bankless Claimables and AIrdrop Hunter

https://www.bankless.com/claimables/reveal

https://x.com/LayerZero_Fndn/status/1803744985029788042

https://www.coingecko.com/en/coins/layerzero

https://x.com/LayerZero_Fndn/status/1803742303204323494

https://layerzero.foundation/claim

https://www.theblock.co/post/300389/zksync-live-mcap-airdrop

https://www.coingecko.com/en/coins/zksync

https://x.com/TheZKNation/status/1802626483770265991

https://x.com/TheZKNation/status/1801378349442269345

https://docs.zknation.io/zk-token/zk-token-faq

https://x.com/nansen_ai/status/1803003153820082270

https://x.com/cobie/status/1803071393484939602

31:00 MOTHER + DADDY Update

https://www.coingecko.com/en/coins/mother-iggy

https://x.com/IGGYAZALEA

https://x.com/jimcramer/status/1800893795346637193

https://www.coingecko.com/en/coins/daddy-tate

33:14 What’s going on with $DJT?

https://www.coingecko.com/en/coins/trumpcoin-2

https://x.com/PirateWires/status/1802825492405669930

https://www.newsweek.com/crypto-djt-barron-trump-martin-shkreli-1915147

https://x.com/ArkhamIntel/status/1803161788164288875

https://x.com/ArkhamIntel/status/1803471430727901455

https://x.com/zachxbt/status/1803240784436797871

https://x.com/zachxbt/status/1803371615524364503

https://x.com/jmgramke/status/1803792368388264399

https://x.com/WatcherGuru/status/1803759609808564306

https://x.com/MartinShkreli/status/1803821631279612367

46:32 U.S. SEC closes investigation in Ethereum!

https://x.com/Consensys/status/1803230653120659641

https://x.com/laurabrooksie1/status/1803237492130234633

https://x.com/RyanSAdams/status/1803412140289560849

https://x.com/RyanSAdams/status/1803783619997052977

50:24 BitWise launches a new Ethereum ad for their incoming ETH ETF

https://x.com/BitwiseInvest/status/1803789737620078875

https://zora.co/collect/base:0x9ada0269656e7855c95f54a34d4ef94f78892038/1

53:18 Kraken exploit for 3m and some drama - vs Certik

https://x.com/c7five/status/1803403565865771370

https://x.com/P3b7_/status/1803479749005549647

https://x.com/tayvano_/status/1803478049280893040

https://x.com/sethforprivacy/status/1803520795735683528

59:39 Donald Trump wants all remaining Bitcoin to be 'Made in USA'

https://x.com/intangiblecoins/status/1801771689249787936

1:01:11 Optimism & Tether Releases

https://x.com/Optimism/status/1800974991313469445

https://chain.box

https://x.com/Alloy_tether/status/1802676443781923289

1:03:50 Bankless ETHCC Meetup

https://lu.ma/k0amrrnz

1:05:15 Who won the ETH ETF Pitch competition?

https://www.jokerace.io/contest/base/0x0f2211f6727e85dbfae20e7dbfe57875a1f2b706

1:06:50 Another voting for Bankless Nation!

https://www.jokerace.io/contest/base/0x0bac0ec9b6aeafa6c2212f67a67950940eda63a7

1:08:44 MEME of the Week

https://x.com/PleasrDAO/status/1803572250278514999

1:09:22 Closing & Disclaimers

Transcript
00:00
David

$DJT, aka Donald J Trump token that was allegedly started by Baron Trump with endorsement from the Donald himself or not. Is this real? Or is this a fabrication from one of the internet's most hated persons, Martin Skrelly? Zach XBT makes an appearance in the story.

00:22
Ryan

Bankless Nation is the third week of June, and it is time for your Bankless Weekly roll-up. We got a few things to cover today. What's on the document?

00:29
David

It is a big week.

00:31
Ryan

All right, first on the list. Uh the SEC dropped all charges against Ethereum. Remember they had these charges against uh Ethereum? They were actually going after the core devs in this consensus lawsuit. Well, that is no longer. They have written written to consensus that they are dropping their charges against Ethereum. So the question is is Ethereum

00:50
Ryan

Officially recognized as a commodity? I thought the Eth ETF would would make it so, but maybe this is further evidence of this.

00:56
David

But that's one more nail in the coffin. And speaking of ETH, we are getting even more hints about when the ETH ETF will be trading. Hint, it is very soon. So hold your breath. But before then, we also have airdrops. So airdrop season is fully on. Layer zero dropped their token this week. ZK Sync token is now trading. There's some other airdrops coming as well. And so we're going to talk to you all about the tokenomics, what's going on, the sentiment reaction, uh, and how these things are being priced in the markets and where they comp to with some other projects out on the out on the uh the market today. And then of course, Ryan, I'm sure you're gonna love this one. Uh, do you know what's going on with the whole Donald Trump token? Have you been?

01:34
Ryan

And should I care? Yeah. Is the question. This is my most hated agenda item. Like, so David, you've done all the research. I've done the research. Thank you for going into the gutter

01:43
Ryan

and discovering what's up with the Donald J. Trump token. And how is the uh the the farmer bro, Martin Screlli, related to all of this? Burning questions in my mind.

01:53
David

Everything that Ryan wants to know. Before we get there, a moment to talk about our friends and sponsors. Over at

01:57
Ryan

Well, let's talk markets today. And we gotta start with uh King Bitcoin on the Kraken charts. Am I seeing up or down?

02:06
David

you are saying down. You are seeing down. Down 3% on the week. $66,800 is where we started. $65,000 is where we ended. Some negative flows in the Bitcoin ETFs this week. We've definitely had some good weeks in the like two weeks ago. We've had some marginally bad outflows this week. So once again, price, Bitcoin price being correlated with outflows as well. Bitcoin, however, like down 3%. If most people's portfolio was only down 3% this week, they're probably like pretty happy because the rest of the market got absolutely obliterated. ETH did pretty good, actually. ETH is one of the outperformers in the market this week. But like if you are an altcoins like Rip to you. Really? Yeah.

02:51
Ryan

The meme coin statement?

02:52
David

Meme coins, especially, not the meme coins, meme coins especially got obliterated this week. Um, uh, some takes as to why uh Bitcoin is just rising in correlation with the SPY. Uh SPY is just absolutely gigascending right now, up just a whopping 1.5% this week. And remember, that's 1.5% of the world's largest capital market. So it actually does mean a lot of money. Um, but just like new uh all time highs in the equities market.

03:20
David

It's pretty insane.

03:22
Ryan

This is the uh SP 500

03:25
Ryan

ETF. Okay, the most boring ETF that exists.

03:29
Ryan

It's gotta be, right? Well, there's probably some bond ETFs, but this is the most boring equities ETF you can own. And this looks like a a meme coin itself here. It looks like

03:37
David

It looks like an up only meme coin.

03:40
Ryan

now I'm scrolling out all the way to like 1993, but uh that is a beautiful ascent all the way to all time highs.

03:48
David

Yeah,

03:49
Ryan

For the S P.

03:50
David

yeah.

03:50
Ryan

It's uh are are you getting jealous?

03:52
David

It makes it makes a crypto person jealous. But also at the same time, uh I mean we all know that the SP is just a uh index of money issuance, which crypto also is. Uh when you zoom out to like nineteen nineties, basically every chart looks good except for gold. Gold looks flat.

04:08
Ryan

Gold looks flat, sadly.

04:10
David

Yeah.

04:10
Ryan

Well, how how does MicroStrategy factor into this? Because you were talking about Bitcoin outflows, and that's on the Bitcoin ETF.

04:17
David

Right.

04:17
Ryan

But uh Michael Saylor never never outflows. No, he's always inflowing. Only in flow.

04:21
David

Only

04:22
Ryan

This is uh a tweet that says MicroStrategy has acquired an additional uh twelve thousand bitcoins.

04:27
David

casual.

04:27
Ryan

Uh a casual $786 million using proceeds from convertible notes, those sweet bonds, and excess cash. So taking that fiat on some bond leverage real cheap and going and buying Bitcoin and Michael Saylor's continuing to dollar cost average in. Does that help at all?

04:46
David

That definitely helps. Yeah. $786 million of buying pressure definitely helps bolster up Bitcoin. Uh anyone's meme coin bags do not have that same level of support that that Bitcoin has. How does Michael Strat have MicroStrategy still have like the tolerance to be able to do this? Like, why is there so much slack in the MSTR equity price that Michael Saylor can continue to print MSTR, sell that for Bitcoin, and have that pump the value of MSTR to the point where he can do it again? That was only supposed to work and up until the point that Bitcoin ETFs are approved. Because why would anyone buy MSTR when there are Bitcoin ETFs? The fact that the he can still be doing this because it's a leverage.

05:26
Ryan

Is

05:28
Ryan

a levered play. Yeah. You get uh the kind of the the leverage, you get like potentially a little extra juice. Actually, there was a clip where Michael Saylor explained why MSTR is actually like in some small ways better.

05:40
Ryan

I can't I can't I Bitcoin exposure all the the big the details here because it's just like I don't I don't care that much but it does have some advantages.

05:49
Ryan

Um

05:49
David

The micro the market capitalization of MicroStrategy is at twenty five billion dollars.

05:53
Ryan

crazy, right?

05:54
David

So yeah, I guess that does make sense because he has so much debt because he has so much like Bitcoin. So he's taken

06:00
Ryan

I don't wanna I don't wanna mess up the like somebody's probably listening to this and like I know precisely what you're missing here, but like uh yeah there are some advantages with micro strategy for some types of investors and in buying that versus a Bitcoin ETF. The big question is when is when is MicroStrategy the stock going to actually be present in this SP? So I don't think it is yet. It's not part of the SP 500, but it's getting real close in terms of size.

06:23
David

Yeah, Bitcoin doesn't have to go up that much more for like MicroStrategy to gain like a meaningful like

06:28
Ryan

It's we have to accept it, right? There's a formal gatekeeping process, I believe, to get an SP 500. I don't know who decides these things, actually. I'm not Tradfi enough to understand that, but um, we could probably look that up too.

06:39
David

MicroStrategy has $13 billion of Bitcoin on their balance sheet with a market cap of $26 billion. So half of their market cap comes from Bitcoin and they also have a ton of debt. So if like Bitcoin doubled, which I expect it to, like not in the not distant future.

06:56
David

Like yeah, that would make sense. That would that would that would turn into the current market cap of the actual stock price.

07:01
Ryan

Yeah, that's what Sailor's betting on. Yeah, it's like one thing I just want to zoom out on because I've been thinking about uh personal finance, all the things that they don't teach you in school. Because you know, like my daughter, my oldest daughter, she's taking her first personal finance class in like high school, right? And so I'm just like, I don't know what they're gonna teach there. And like I was thinking about advice I'd I'd give to her. You know what my first bit of advice is? Uh something I didn't figure out until my 20s, early 20s, fortunately for me, right? But like something that the system didn't teach me is um if you don't own assets, you will be poorer.

07:26
David

Right.

07:33
David

Yeah.

07:34
Ryan

Like seriously, look at this chart.

07:37
Ryan

Look at this chart. They don't teach you this in school. They you you look at like uh okay, what's my job going to be? Like, oh engineers make X amount of money in terms of salary. Like salary doesn't matter at all. Income doesn't matter. I mean it matters like

07:50
David

Linear.

07:51
Ryan

Only to the extent that you could take your excess income from things you don't spend it on and like take that delta and profit and buy assets. If you don't buy assets, you are not in the game. I'm talking about any asset. It just doesn't even have to be crypto. Okay. Like the like very bullish on crypto, but like property, equities, stock, like not bonds, but like assets are the things you need to have. And um scans.

08:16
David

Yeah.

08:17
Ryan

Yeah, and like it's kind of like

08:18
Ryan

Um I I don't know when people hear this, they're like that, but it's not fair. Okay, it's not fair. But like it's the game.

08:26
David

Yeah. It's

08:26
Ryan

These are the rules.

08:27
David

it's how you make it more fair. The more assets you want more assets you own, the more fair it is for you.

08:31
Ryan

So I just I don't even think it's f I don't think it's fair either, right? It's like it's not great, but that's the system we live in. Anyway, tell me about ETH price, David.

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