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ROLLUP: Bitcoin ETF Rumors | IRS Tax Rules | Ethereum Dencun

Bankless Weekly Rollup First Week of 2024

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0:00 Intro

8:00 MARKETS

https://www.coingecko.com/en/coins/bitcoin/ars

10:25 Bitcoin

https://cointelegraph.com/news/bitcoin-birthday-15-years-satoshi-nakamoto-genesis-block-mine

https://twitter.com/lopp/status/1738547873967435907?s=46

13:00 ETH

15:10 MatrixPort Liquidations

https://twitter.com/WatcherGuru/status/1742541738940510645

https://www.theblock.co/post/270125/sec-will-reject-all-bitcoin-spot-etfs-in-january-says-matrixport-analyst

https://x.com/TrustlessState/status/1742597650791162271?s=20

19:20 SEI , ARB , OP

https://www.coingecko.com/en/coins/sei

https://defillama.com/chains

21:50 Narrative Investing

https://dune.com/cryptokoryo/narratives

27:00 Bitcoin ETFs

https://twitter.com/JSeyff/status/1742216237017342041

https://twitter.com/EricBalchunas/status/1742580887022125209?s=20

https://twitter.com/EricBalchunas/status/1742543503375106139?s=20

https://x.com/MetaLawMan/status/1742532353535180988?s=20

31:00 Insane IRS Crypto Rules

https://twitter.com/jerrybrito/status/1742246479593382207

https://x.com/RyanSAdams/status/1742257989195636978?s=20

https://x.com/NeerajKA/status/1742362328937746793?s=20

https://twitter.com/CryptoTaxGuyETH/status/1742366293649465782?s=20

https://x.com/jerrybrito/status/1742662203784744971?s=20

39:00 Ethereum Duncan

https://x.com/christine_dkim/status/1737889041981575320?s=20

https://www.eip4844.com/

42:30 Devcon 7

https://devcon.org/en/

43:00 Avalanche Culture

https://x.com/avax/status/1740538202346381605?s=20

45:00 Michael Saylor

https://warpcast.com/rsa/0xd1b6a261

https://x.com/BitDeez/status/1742313181697945878?s=20

https://x.com/ecoinometrics/status/1740034802508796186?s=20

46:50 LUNA is a Security

https://www.coindesk.com/policy/2023/12/28/terraform-labs-luna-and-mir-tokens-are-securities-judge-rules/

https://twitter.com/metalawman/status/1740785789234028840

49:50 No More SBF Trials

https://www.reuters.com/legal/sam-bankman-fried-will-not-face-second-trial-us-prosecutors-say-2023-12-29/

https://www.theblock.co/post/268450/ftx-bankruptcy-could-go-on-for-years-legal-expert-says

51:35 Barry Dilbert Steps Down

https://www.coindesk.com/business/2023/12/26/barry-silbert-resigns-as-grayscale-chairman-to-be-replaced-by-mark-shifke/

https://www.sec.gov/ix?doc=/Archives/edgar/data/0001588489/000095017023072820/gbtc-20231226.htm

52:40 Dymension Airdrop

https://x.com/dymension/status/1742185621299265738?s=20

https://x.com/dymension/status/1742185624696680823?s=20

55:00 Manta

https://twitter.com/MantaNetwork/status/1678807287761195008?s=20

https://twitter.com/MantaNetwork/status/1735268753984864349

57:00 MEME of the Week

https://x.com/BanklessHQ/status/1742662299087929472?s=20

Transcript
00:00
David

Everyone is getting ready for the spot Bitcoin ETF approval. Almost everyone is that why Bitcoin went down ten percent?

00:09
Ryan Sean Adams

Angless Nation, it is our first weekly roll-up of 2024. David, how you doing, man?

00:16
David

Pretty good my man. I'm down in Argentina. Uh it's a good place to be.

00:19
Ryan Sean Adams

Oh, I know. I I want to talk to you about that, but uh let's give the folks a tease of what's going on in the weekly roll up first. Number one, we got Bitcoin down. It was it was over 10% down in one day.

00:31
David

Big move down.

00:32
Ryan Sean Adams

Yeah, why did it sell off? We're gonna talk about that. What else we got?

00:35
David

Brian, are you ready to go to jail?

00:37
Ryan Sean Adams

Um no, not this year. Why?

00:41
David

Because there's crypto tax rules that just took effect. And if you ever claim an airdrop worth, you know, ten thousand dollars, you have to report it to the IRS pretty damn soon, or else you go to jail. So I'll see you in jail by the end of this year. We'll talk about all of that. Ethereum Denkun, we got a date for you as well for when roll-ups are getting 90% fee reductions. That's coming very, very soon. It's coming in just a few months now. We'll give you all the details. And also, Ryan, I know I won't be seeing you at DevCon 7, but everyone who does go to DevCon 7, we just got the details announced. So we will all see you when and where. We will find out.

01:18
Ryan Sean Adams

Oh, that's a that's a good tease, David. Uh it's a in a very far away place, so uh that that's a very reasonable I I won't be attending, but uh I'm very excited for you to attend. Um speaking of world traveling,

01:30
Ryan Sean Adams

you said you were in Argentina, and before we started recording this episode, you were waving around some fat stacks.

01:36
Ryan Sean Adams

Okay. Can you tell me how the uh fiat system works over there in Argentina? Like what's your experience been so far?

01:43
David

You want to you want to see what $1,000 looks like? Or excuse me, $100 looks like in Argentina?

01:48
Ryan Sean Adams

100 US dollars in

01:50
David

US dollars.

01:50
Ryan Sean Adams

comparison.

01:51
David

Looks like this.

01:52
Ryan Sean Adams

Yeah.

01:52
David

Looks like that.

01:53
Ryan Sean Adams

Oh my god. Wow, that is a f that is a that is a

01:55
David

That's a watt of cash. I think this is a hundred bills of Argentine pesos. This is actually actually these are 100 pesos. There's a watt of a thousand pesos. So actually, just kidding. This is $10. This is $10 right here.

02:08
Ryan Sean Adams

Ten dollars?

02:09
David

Yeah. So their current conversion ratio is $1,000 to $1.

02:13
David

Uh, and this is 100 100 peso bills.

02:17
Ryan Sean Adams

What one thousand to one? Is that like fixed, or does that vary based on

02:21
David

The current market rate. That's the current market rate. Yeah.

02:23
Ryan Sean Adams

it?

02:25
David

Yeah. Here's the largest Argentine peso bill, which is a 2,000 peso bill. It's about

02:31
David

It's about $2. Yeah. Yeah. So like I when I go and I pay anything in cash, I'm carrying around like fat stacks of bills. When I was in Argentina in 2016, the ratio, the conversion ratio was 16 to 1, which is like, you know, it's not crazy. It's not terrible. Um,

02:46
David

you know, 2016, how many years ago was that? Seven years ago. So in seven years, it goes from sixteen to one

02:51
David

to a thousand to one.

02:52
Ryan Sean Adams

Okay, so is this like when you're purchasing things, you're going to a restaurant, you're getting food or something, you're getting groceries. Are you buying things with pesos? Is it like all cash business, or can you like use a credit card or something like this or

03:04
David

Yeah.

03:04
Ryan Sean Adams

some other means of payment?

03:06
David

I would say more frequently than not you can use a credit card. Um some some things are cash only. Like there's a lot of street markets, for example. Um credit cards are pretty well proliferated, I'd say. Um or I debit credit card, debit card, tap to pay. But then also that decent number of times, like you just you gotta use pesos too.

03:22
Ryan Sean Adams

Wow, that's crazy. How has it been so far overall?

03:25
David

Uh Argentina or using pesos?

03:27
Ryan Sean Adams

Oh, Argentina. I mean, using pesos is gotta be we like it's probably a novelty if you're there for like a couple of weeks, but like I'm sure that gets pretty damn old if you're uh

03:37
David

Yeah, so like the Josh was asking, it's like, so what's it like to pay in pesos? Is it like kind of cool because you have like a big wad of cash? I'm like, no, it's actually it's actually really annoying because like, okay, here's a $20 food bill.

03:49
David

And I go one, two, three. I just start counting. I'm like, oh my god, it keeps on going. These are because so like the the hundred peso bill,

03:59
David

it's ten cents. One bill is ten cents. It's a dime for us.

04:02
Ryan Sean Adams

I've seen your your wallet. You have a very small wallet. I've I've seen

04:06
David

No bills go in there.

04:07
Ryan Sean Adams

like how how do you how do you fit that? I mean like you must have like

04:11
David

I have like multiple.

04:12
Ryan Sean Adams

grocery boxes.

04:12
David

I have a whole pocket full of. I literally put one of these things in my pockets, and then I come back and it's like gone.

04:18
Ryan Sean Adams

Oh that's crazy. No, no, okay, but uh aside from the fiat, which we know is destined for failure, no matter what country you're in, eventually your fiat will fail. Uh tell me about Argentina.

04:29
David

That's fantastic. Anoche. Uh there's the bankless meetup at a wine bar. Uh I so we put out the bankless meetup a while ago, set for Friday, and we were going to rent out half the wine bar. A wine bar is like a kind of a popular place in um one of the nice neighborhoods, uh, and for a hundred people, and it instantly filled up.

04:49
David

It filled up inside of 30 minutes. I was like, oh my God, I did not realize that A, there's there's so many bankless fans like ready in Argentina, in Buenos Aires, ready to go. And so like B, we have to move places. And so we went from we went from Friday where we could rent half the place to Thursday, which is today,

05:05
David

to rent all the place. And then it just instantly filled up, even though we doubled the capacity.

05:09
David

Uh and so uh I'm a little bit intimidated by that, but it's gonna be a good time. It's gonna be a good time. Some Malbec and some empanadas.

05:18
David

Uh am I gonna give a speech?

05:21
David

Perhaps. I don't know. Uh you you you know me, I make things up as I go.

05:24
Ryan Sean Adams

And tell all the bankless Argentinians I say hello as well. And uh you know.

05:29
Ryan Sean Adams

I'd be there in person if I could. I I have COVID right now, David. Yeah, you do.

05:34
David

Yeah.

05:34
Ryan Sean Adams

And so uh if if I sound a little bit nasally or a little bit under the weather, then bank listation, that is why. But uh we cannot won't stop the weekly roll up. Uh David,

05:44
Ryan Sean Adams

let's figure out Bitcoin this week. Uh you wanted me to start this Bitcoin priced in pesos, Argentinian pesos. Well, this chart uh looks nice because it's up and to the right, but not if you hold pesos.

05:59
David

Yeah, it looks pretty scary. So the Bitcoin Argentine peso chart is a small, squiggly line very close to the bottom. And then right on the right side, it is absolutely vertical. Pesos just devalued by like 50% right before I got here in dollar terms. The log chart, it's just up only. Yes, Bitcoin is it's setting like a crazy all-time highs every single week in Argentine pesos. This is what this is what fiat currencies are all trending towards. It's just a matter of time.

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