# The Pudgy Penguins Comeback Story With Luca Netz *Author: Ryan Sean Adams, Dave Freiburger* *Published: Feb 15, 2024* *Source: https://www.bankless.com/podcast/the-pudy-penguins-comeback-story-with-luca-netz* --- Today on the show we're joined by Luca Netz, the new owner of Pudgy Penguins.  Luca walks us through his story of how he got here, from a less than ideal childhood, to a full blown NFT empire.  In addition to a massive new deal with Walmart, he also lays out the case for why he thinks the bright future for Pudgy Penguins has only just begun. --- ## TIMESTAMPS 00:00:00 Start 00:07:36 Intro To Luca 00:11:09 Building an NFT Brand 00:17:00 Deciding to Buy Pudgy Penguins 00:19:43 Earning the Money For The Purchase 00:23:35 What Did Luca Actually Buy? 00:26:03 The Masterplan 00:30:44 Post-Buy Learnings 00:38:57 First Steps Of Action 00:43:03 Licensing 00:45:46 Royalties 00:50:19 Walmart Deal 00:59:33 What's Different About Web3 01:03:54 Managing Expectations 01:09:43 Pudgy World 01:16:01 zk Sync 01:18:19 Lightning Round 01:22:59 Wen Flip Apes? --- ## RESOURCES Luca Netz: [https://twitter.com/LucaNetz ](https://twitter.com/LucaNetz) Pudgy Penguins: [https://pudgypenguins.com/ ](https://pudgypenguins.com/) --- *This article is brought to you by [MetaMask](https://www.bankless.com/sponsor/metamask-1776260643?ref=podcast/the-pudy-penguins-comeback-story-with-luca-netz)*