# 185 - The Superchain Explained with Jesse Pollak & Ben Jones

*Author: Ryan Sean Adams, David Hoffman*
*Published: Aug 26, 2023*
*Source: https://www.bankless.com/fr/the-superchain-explained-with-jesse-pollock-ben-jones*

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On today’s episode we brought on repeat Bankless guests, Ben Jones, Co-Founder of Optimism and Creator of Base, Jesse Pollock. 

Base! Coinbase’s Layer 2 has almost hit 1 million users in 2 weeks. It has more transactions per second than Ethereum mainnet. Jesse digs into the magnitude of this development. Base chain was built on Optimism’s tech stack. This is just 1 chain of many thousands we’ll see over the coming years. How do we tie them all together? Ben dives into all things Superchain. The Superchain is how we bring 1 billion people onchain.

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## TIMESTAMPS

0:00 Intro

7:42 Base Launch Reflection 

9:53 Optimism’s Reflection 

11:35 Coinbase x Optimism Collaboration

17:14 OP Stack Incentives 

23:43 Base’s Impressive Numbers 

26:26 Explaining the Superchain  

31:40 Why Join the Superchain? 

33:55 The Law of Chains 

45:26 The Coinbase Onchain Formula

51:15 Base Part of Optimism Governance 

58:40 What About Other L2s? 

1:04:56 Optimism Collective’s Fee 

1:08:25 The Tech Behind the Superchain

1:13:34 Superchain Timeline 

1:15:45 Fault Proofs

1:18:36 Risk Profile of Base    

1:22:15 Optimism’s Governance Minimization 

1:24:10 Wen Fault Proofs & Stages 

1:30:00 How Many Clients Does Optimism Have? 

1:33:36 Near Term Focus For Base

1:37:01 Near Term Focus For Optimism

Closing & Disclosures 

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## RESOURCES

Jesse Pollock

https://twitter.com/jessepollak

Ben Jones

https://twitter.com/ben_chain

The Law of Chains

https://gov.optimism.io/t/law-of-chains-v0-1-full-draft/6514