# Soulbound: On or off Chain? | Vitalik Buterin and Evin McMullen

*Author: David Hoffman*
*Published: Jun 8, 2022*
*Source: https://www.bankless.com/fr/soulbound-on-or-off-chain-vitalik*

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From your credit history to your college degree, what is it that defines you? What does decentralized, trustless, digital identity look like?

After listening to these two gigabrains hash it out, we’re convinced that the real winner of this debate… is humanity.

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### TIMESTAMPS
0:00 Intro

4:30 Setting the Stage

7:50 Chains and Identities

11:46 Governance

15:14 The Data Backpack

21:22 Non-transferability

27:52 Token Externalities

34:32 Soulbound Privacy

41:30 Proving Negatives

46:20 Inclusion & Neutrality

50:19 The Disco Pill

56:05 All Directions at Once

1:02:36 A Case Study

1:07:49 Zooming Out

1:12:50 Closing

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### RESOURCES
Evin on Twitter:

https://twitter.com/provenauthority?s=20&t=Y6vQEWWHoUCqnF-wAm81qg

Vitalik on Twitter:

https://twitter.com/VitalikButerin?s=20&t=Y6vQEWWHoUCqnF-wAm81qg

Disco:

https://www.disco.xyz/

Soulbound

https://vitalik.ca/general/2022/01/26/soulbound.html