# Memecoins: Good or Evil with Ledger & Stephen Cesaro *Author: David Hoffman* *Published: Mar 19, 2024* *Source: https://www.bankless.com/fr/memecoins-good-or-evil-with-ledger-stephen-cesaro* --- Today on the show we have two guests debating the merits and costs of crypto memecoins. Ledger (Brian Krogsgard) from the UpOnly podcast thinks that memecoins are financial nihilism that creates room for bad actors and grifters. Stephen Cesaro, from the Alfalfa Podcast, thinks memecoins are something to appreciate and celebrate. --- ## TIMESTAMPS 0:00 Intro 8:35 Ledger’s Memecoin Arc 11:53 Stephen’s Memecoin Arc 13:20 $DOGE vs. $BTC 18:38 Tokenization of Memes 22:28 Memecoin Intent & Transparency 33:24 Memecoin Theory & Practice 44:30 Investing in Brands 51:55 Reframing Memecoins 56:27 Memecoins vs. Scams 1:09:01 Closing & Disclaimers ------ ## RESOURCES Ledger https://twitter.com/ledgerstatus Stephen https://twitter.com/0xmagiclines