# Is $TIA Modular Money? | Nick White

*Author: David Hoffman*
*Published: Apr 16, 2024*
*Source: https://www.bankless.com/fr/is-tia-modular-money-nick-white*

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In today's episode, David delves into the interesting dynamics between Ethereum and Celestia. While Ethereum and Solana are often seen as the main rivals, Celestia shares similar design philosophies and goals but with notable differences. Is it Ethereum's true competitor? Joining us to help answer that question and much more is Nick White, COO of Celestia Labs.

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## TIMESTAMPS
0:00 Intro

5:28 Celestia 2 Years Ago

6:30 Build Whatever & DA

11:29 Celestia Design Architecture

19:15 Ethereum vs. Celestia

22:26 Celestia No Virtual Machine Trade-Offs 

29:57 Sharing DA Layers & Blockchain Interoperability

37:23 Celestia Trustlessness

42:09 DA as a Commodity? 

54:09 Network Effects of DA

57:35 $TIA’s Role in Celestia Ecosystem

1:01:50 Lightnodes 

1:04:57 $TIA’s Moneyness

1:10:20 Execution & Settlement Layers

1:16:46 Cosmos & Celestia & Ethereum

1:21:56 Sovereign Endgame 

1:26:42 Closing & Disclaimers

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## RESOURCES

Nick’s 1st Bankless Episode 

https://youtu.be/bmSU3cZhe3U 

Nick White

https://twitter.com/nickwh8te 

Celestia

https://twitter.com/CelestiaOrg