# 149 - Ethereum in 2023 with Vitalik Buterin

*Author: Ryan Sean Adams, David Hoffman*
*Published: Dec 16, 2022*
*Source: https://www.bankless.com/fr/149-ethereum-in-2023-with-vitalik-buterin*

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In today’s episode, Vitalik unpacks his recent essay, “[What in the Ethereum application ecosystem excites me](https://vitalik.ca/general/2022/12/05/excited.html),” and his thoughts around why crypto villains are getting worse, what Ethereum’s most scalable use case is, why he plans to say ‘Ethereum’ rather than ‘crypto’ in 2023, how Ethereum solves the big bad identity problem, and why he thinks “simple DeFi good, complicated DeFi bad.”

Every episode with Vitalik is a must-listen and this one is no different.

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### TIMESTAMPS
0:00 Intro

7:44 Vitalik’s 2022 Crypto Reflections

17:31 Was 2022 More Unusual? 

25:58 Esperanto, Linux, & Crypto

34:57 Advice for the Crypto Space 

38:31 Permissionless Commons Criticism

45:54 2022 Lessons Learned by Vitalik

52:22 Vitalik’s Recent Blog Post

1:00:00 Why Do We Need Crypto Money? 

1:10:29 Where the Opportunity in Crypto is

1:13:52 Identity

1:24:29 DAOs & Governance Innovation

1:31:05 Hybrid Applications

1:36:30 Accelerating the Good Things 

1:41:05 Vitalik’s Role in 2023

1:44:48 Action Items & Disclaimer

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#### RESOURCES
- Vitalik Buterin
[https://twitter.com/VitalikButerin](https://twitter.com/VitalikButerin)
- What in the Ethereum Application Ecosystem Excites Me - Vitalik [https://vitalik.ca/general/2022/12/05/excited.html](https://vitalik.ca/general/2022/12/05/excited.html)
- Why I’m Less Than Infinitely Hostile to Cryptocurrency - Astral Codex Ten [https://astralcodexten.substack.com/p/why-im-less-than-infinitely-hostile](https://astralcodexten.substack.com/p/why-im-less-than-infinitely-hostile)
- Vitalik’s Other Bankless Appearances
[https://www.youtube.com/results?search_query=bankless+vitalik](https://www.youtube.com/results?search_query=bankless+vitalik)