# MakerDAO vs. Aave | Sam MacPherson & Marc Zeller

*Author: David Hoffman*
*Published: Apr 5, 2024*
*Source: https://www.bankless.com/es/makerdao-vs-aave-sam-macpherson-marc-zeller*

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In today’s episode, we dive into the latest drama in the Ethereum DeFi lending scene. MakerDAO has sparked discussions by integrating Ethena's new Synthetic Dollar USDe, while Aave expresses caution, considering removing DAI as collateral. 

We brought on Sam MacPherson from MakerDAO and Marc Zeller from Aave to provide their insights on this evolving situation. Expect a deep yet amicable discussion on the future of DeFi, focusing on collaboration over conflict. Also, tune in to better understand how these developments impact the broader DeFi ecosystem.

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## TIMESTAMPS
0:00 Intro

1:41 MakerDAOs Thought Process 

7:46 MakerDAO & Ethena 

10:03 Offboarding DAI as Collateral

16:57 Clarifying Numbers & Timing 

19:35 Risks & Liquidity 

28:08 Marc’s Thoughts on Ethena

31:33 Sam’s Response 

34:07 Marc’s Disagreement 

38:06 Summary of Marc’s/Aave’s Stance  

40:44 Sam’s Response

42:48 Trust 

45:46 MakerDAO Identity Crisis? 

50:02 Aave’s Identity 

50:56 Closing & Disclaimers

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## RESOURCES
Sam MacPherson

https://twitter.com/hexonaut

Marc Zeller

https://twitter.com/lemiscate