# 172 - Why We Need a Digital Dollar | Rohan Grey Debates RSA

*Author: Ryan Sean Adams, David Hoffman*
*Published: May 21, 2023*
*Source: https://www.bankless.com/de/podcast/early-access-why-we-need-a-digital-dollar-rohan-grey-debates-rsa*

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You might remember him as the guy behind the STABLE Act (Stablecoin And Bank Licensing Enforcement) which turned into an episode we did with him in December of 2020. 

The topic of CBDC and the politicization of our money system has returned, so we wanted to get Rohan back on to learn about what this conversation from his point of view. 

In today’s episode, Rohan helps us understand:

1) Who are the power structures supporting and fighting over the CBDC

2) Why the crypto community might have to support a digital dollar… or else!?

3) Why you should be skeptical about the anti-Gensler politicians

4) Finding the common ground between Rohan and Bankless

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### TIMESTAMPS: 
0:00 Intro

7:39 CBDC Fight in D.C.? 

9:20 What Side Is Rohan On? 

11:07 Public vs. Private Money 

14:36 The Political Chessboard 

25:11 Republicans & CBDCs

30:22 Anti-Gensler Republicans 

34:23 Central Bank Independence 

40:15 Elizabeth Warren War on Crypto

51:25 Crypto x Political Alignment

57:50 The Case for Crypto 

1:02:52 Public Goods & Capitalism

1:04:33 Digital Dollar & Privacy 

1:07:21 The Central Banker Problem 

1:16:49 Property Rights

1:22:44 Rohan’s Advice to Builders

1:28:09 Closing & Disclaimers 

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RESOURCES:

Rohan Grey

https://twitter.com/rohangrey

Rohan’s Previous Bankless Episode

https://youtu.be/1ywsNq0XAfE

No Spy Cash

https://www.nospycash.com/