# 135 - Crypto Wars 2.0 with Zooko

*Author: David Hoffman*
*Published: Sep 5, 2022*
*Source: https://www.bankless.com/de/135-crypto-wars-20-with-zooko*

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As the dust settles with Tornado Cash’s sanctioning news and the arrest of Alexey Pertsev, the space is drawing parallels to the early days of crypto, Crypto Wars 1.0.

Crypto privacy is being tested in new ways and Zooko couldn’t be in a better place to explain the current complexities. What’s the case for crypto privacy? Why is it such a tough problem to solve? Why is Zooko optimistic about the future of crypto privacy?

What are your thoughts on crypto privacy? Let us know in the comments or on Twitter @banklesshq

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### TIMESTAMPS
0:00 Intro

6:25 Zooko’s Background

8:30 The State of Crypto Privacy

13:26 A Privacy Enabled Society

18:34 The Case for Privacy 

27:53 Why Privacy Equals Freedom

32:38 The Chilling Effect

35:26 Negative Externalities 

38:28 Consent & A.I.

47:22 A.I. vs. Cryptography & Law

55:53 Crypto Wars 1.0 vs. 2.0 

1:05:25 CDBC & The Clipper Chip

1:09:26 Why Isn’t Crypto Privacy Bigger 

1:18:45 The Crypto Experiment

1:22:51 Solving the Privacy Problem

1:24:30 Privacy & DeFi 

1:30:00 PoS & Roll-ups 

1:42:50 Optimism on Crypto Privacy

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### RESOURCES
Zooko

https://twitter.com/zooko

Zcash

https://z.cash/